Still have your kids in public school?

Are you at least demanding to see what they are learning?


The words are written in crayon, in the haphazard bumpiness of a child’s scrawl.

“I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure.”

They’re the words that Florida father Aaron Harvey was stunned to find his fourth-grade son had written, after a lesson in school about the Constitution.


Harvey’s son attends Cedar Hills Elementary in Jacksonville, Fla. Back in January, a local attorney came in to teach the students about the Bill of Rights. But after the attorney left, fourth-grade teacher Cheryl Sabb dictated the sentence to part of the class and had them copy it down, he said.

The paper sat unnoticed in Harvey’s son’s backpack for several months until last week, when his son’s mother almost threw it away. The words caught her eye in the trash, and she showed it to Harvey, who said he was at a loss for words. He asked his son, who said Sabb had spoken the sentence out loud and told them to write it down. Harvey said he asked some of his son’s classmates and got a similar answer.

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15 thoughts on “Still have your kids in public school?

  1. Tar and feathers come to mind. I think if I owned a tar pit, I would give it away for free to anyone that could show me a pick up truck full of feathers and/or possibly peanut packing materials.

  2. Jump to conclusions much? Without the context of knowing what was actually said in the classroom about these written words, there’s no way to know what the kids were actually taught.

    I have two kids in public school, and when they come home talking right wing nonsense about American Exceptionalism or other such drivel, we don’t call for the teacher to be fired, or tarred and feathered as the nutty commenter before me did, we engage in open discussions about WHY that concept is utter b.s. We recognize that right wing gibberish will occasionally slip into the curriculum, but we don’t think sheltering our kids from that kind of asinine crap is a productive way to deal with it. For us, it is a learning experience.

    1. Glad to know you have a problem teaching traditional American values. You probably don’t have a problem with them teaching that capitalism is destructive either.

      1. American exceptionalism isn’t a traditional American value, it’s claptrap. And yes, unregulated capitalism is in fact destructive, just ask any of the victims of the decision made by the Ford Motor Company in the 1970’s that it would be cheaper to pay the resulting death claims, rather than spending $11 per car to fix a faulty design. Oh, never mind, those victims were all incinerated, so I guess they won’t have much to say about the type of cost/benefit analysis that usually accompanies unregulated capitalism. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against capitalism, I’m a capitalist myself, I just recognize government’s role in keeping it in check.

        1. Obamacare, EPA regulations that increased the cost of energy, higher tax rates, maybe now a higher minimum wage-but that shouldn’t make it through the House. This is the short list, but enough to stop all investments and new hiring.

      2. I asked for an example of anything I’ve written that promotes crushing all business, because that’s what you implied that I promote after looking at my blog. In response, you simply rattled off a list of political topics, most of which I’ve never discussed on my blog. I get the distinct impression that you like to make broad generalizations about others that you can’t support. Care to try again?

      3. You didn’t state facts, you stated categories, then suggested those categories crush business.

        Stating something doesn’t make it true, despite believing that it does. If you want to convince a member of the reality based community that your position is correct, you have to do so with logic, and evidence, two things which are sorely missing from anywhere that I’ve looked on your site.

        1. I strongly believe you don’t want facts because they would get in your way. Businesses are refusing to go over 49 employees or have employees working more than 29 hours a week because Obamacare rules kick in at those levels. You haven’t heard this? I am talking facts! The rules are over 20,000 pages and they aren’t done being written yet. The exchanges have cost more than twice as much as estimated and they won’t be ready by 1/1/2014. Obama’s national debt will be at least $20 Trillion by the end of his term. The debt alone crushes the economy because of the massive debt payments. The country is headed for the same credit rating that Illinois has. Of course, the Federal reserve can keep printing money turning the value of a dollar to ashes. What part don’t you get?

      4. I am aware that some businesses have made the decision to cut worker hours rather than pay for healthcare, but that decision doesn’t adversely affect businesses, it adversely affects their employees. If you want to play cheerleader on this issue, shouldn’t it be on the side of those who are victims of employers who are too cheap to pay for their employees healthcare?

        My spouse happens to be one of those who is being affected by this practice of cutting hours rather than pay for healthcare, but I don’t blame Obamacare for that, I put the blame where it belongs, which is on her employer.

        Regarding Obama’s debt, let us not forget that much of that debt was a natural consequence of two unfunded wars, and the free falling Bush economy that Obama inherited. Funny how you right wing types only raise concerns about debt and spending when the other guy is signing the checks.

        1. This conversation is useless. You don’t understand business and you have all the left wing talking points down. Keep believing Obama will save the country. Maybe some magic will make it so.

      5. I have a degree in business. I’ve worked in various capacities for numerous businesses over the last 35 years. I am currently employed by a fortune 500 company, and doing very well financially. I AM a businessman, so please don’t tell me I don’t understand business.

        You are right about one thing, and that’s the useless nature of this conversation. In my experience discussing politics online, I have yet to meet a right winger who can offer anything beyond evidence free generalizations, and insults. Thanks for your time, it has been enlightening.

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